in my Z. But I meant to do that. The one time I lose traction that I did not me it was on a drizzly day and I was going over an overpass. Went up the exit ramp and turned left and just kept turn left. After about 1080 degrees I had torn off the bottom of my facia. I was not speeding but with the drizzle on pretty cold day the wind over the overpass had frozen the road there. This was even with stopping completely (I was watching to make sure that someone else would not hit me) and brand new tires. Ice sux and ice you can't see really sux. Lessoned learned don't drive Z in winter.